Autos Audis

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I just bought a used Audi TT with a nav system. The vehicle was fully inspected by audi. I tried the nav system. Everything works….as long as you don’t need to actually do anything othe rthan browse the top level menus. The wheel button doesn’t do anythig when I press it in. it doesnt detect clicks….am I missing something here, or is it busted. Good thing the car is on warranty. Thanks, Ralph

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Thankfully, it works. I have to press pretty damn stiffly though. Is it supposed to be like this? Its not just a light click.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I just bought a used Audi TT with a nav system. The vehicle was fully > inspected by audi. I tried the nav system. Everything works….as long as > you don’t need to actually do anything othe rthan browse the top level > menus. The wheel button doesn’t do anythig when I press it in. it doesnt > detect clicks….am I missing something here, or is it busted. Good thing > the car is on warranty. > Thanks, > Ralph

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> Thankfully, it works. I have to press pretty damn stiffly though. Is it > supposed to be like this? Its not just a light click.

Nope – that doesn’t sound right. — Peter Bell  (Note Spamtrap – To reply, replace ‘invalid’ with ‘bellfamily’)

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Anyone know the Oil Spec for the Rear Diffs ?? Audi TT 225bhp Also Oil Spec for the Haldex 4wheel drive unit ?? Thanks Westy…

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Haldex uses special mineral oil, no substitute available.

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The raincoat or the hamburger?

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> ‘S’ wrote… > Dear Technical Support, > 18 months ago, I upgraded to Girlfriend 1.0 from Drinking > Mates 4.2, which I had used for years without any trouble. However, there > are apparently conflicts between these two products, and the only solution > was to try and run Girlfriend 1.0 with the sound turned off. > To make matters worse, Girlfriend 1.0 is incompatible with several other > applications, such as Lads Night Out 3.1, Football 3pm, and Playboy 6.9. > Successive versions of Girlfriend proved no better. A > shareware program, Party Girl 2.1, which I tried, had many bugs and left a > virus in my system, forcing me to shut down completely for several weeks. > Eventually, I tried to run Girlfriend 1.2 and Girlfriend 1.0 at the same > time, only to discover that when these two systems detected each other, they > caused severe damage to my hardware. > I then upgraded to Fianc

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> And then theres always the Scarborough to Whitby road when its quiet… late > at night, or early morning, thats a challenging road….

You gotta follow that through onto the A171 and do the run back throu goathland to make it worthwhile…

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> Oh, yes. Some lovely roads around that area (discovered a few while > commuting from Slough to Bristol with the M4 impassable). Some very dodgy > road surfaces, though.. had to get someone back on a flight to Ireland with > not enough time. We made it, but the BMW slogan was sounding a little hollow > at the end of it ;o) Nasty bit (if I’m thinking about the same road) was the > apparently random scattering of 30s along the route.

yeah – some damn fine roads around Honiton / Taunton too, got lost trying to cut the corner from the M5 to Honiton, after midnight, after driving down there from Hull…

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Oh, yes. Some lovely roads around that area (discovered a few while > commuting from Slough to Bristol with the M4 impassable). Some very dodgy > road surfaces, though.. had to get someone back on a flight to Ireland > with > not enough time. We made it, but the BMW slogan was sounding a little > hollow > at the end of it ;o) Nasty bit (if I’m thinking about the same road) was > the > apparently random scattering of 30s along the route. > yeah – some damn fine roads around Honiton / Taunton too, got lost trying to > cut the corner from the M5 to Honiton, after midnight, after driving down > there from Hull…

Blimey, you and H1K should write a book – although I think you just have — Moley TTOC Member www.ttoc.co.uk www.tt-forum.co.uk

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> > Oh, yes. Some lovely roads around that area (discovered a few while > > commuting from Slough to Bristol with the M4 impassable). Some very > dodgy > > road surfaces, though.. had to get someone back on a flight to Ireland > with > > not enough time. We made it, but the BMW slogan was sounding a little > hollow > > at the end of it ;o) Nasty bit (if I’m thinking about the same road) was > the > > apparently random scattering of 30s along the route. > yeah – some damn fine roads around Honiton / Taunton too, got lost trying > to > cut the corner from the M5 to Honiton, after midnight, after driving down > there from Hull… > Blimey, you and H1K should write a book – although I think you just have

part of the punishment for having driven an average of 35k per annum for the last ten years is haveing driven some cool cars over some neat roads; giving the experiences listed.

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> > > Personally, I allow about 30 seconds – more if the temperature needle > rises > > above median. (Presumably when one has met Swash; having never once come > > across a Volvo being driven in a "spirited" manner [excepting breaking > > motorway speed limits in straight lines. Yawn] I can only speculate ;o) > If you ever meet me, you’ll know. Silver S60 (going very quick up market > weighton hill about 20 mins ago…) > Can’t comment, except that (from the map) it looks like a straight

A-road.. indeed it is… Other favourites of mine (not familiar with your example, and can’t work it out on Autoroute – any chance of emailine me an axe file?) Beverley – Thirsk, B1248 (very fast and open B road with a couple of odd dips and weaves) to malton, then B1257 to A170, down sutton bank, into thirsk. Total from home (hull) 65 miles, record (XR4×4) 55 minutes (S60 1hr 10 mins but stuck in traffic in malton). Unclassified road from Wawne to Routh – recently resurfaced and hedges trimmed making it a very fast road (done it in the TT a few times) and only two miles from home – 5 miles and only one short straight. Someone recently has put home-made signs up showing where people have left the road with captions like "SPEED" and "DRUNK" on them… Love it. Back road from Clevedon to Bristol Airport – just amazing for suspension testing….

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> Hey all, > I just became the proud owner of a sea-silver metallic Audi TT. > After being a devout Alfa Romeo driver all my life I just couldn’t > resist the temptations of this sexy German beauty. One testdrive > was all she needed to finally convince me > Anyway.. I have two questions. > I know using 98RON gas (the European kind) is recommended for > optimum performance. But will using 95RON gas (in case I can’t > always get 98) damage the engine in any way.. or will it just > give me less performance?

As Moley said, it’s OK but might get you (marginally) lower performance and mileage. > Someone told me I had to keep the engine running for a few seconds > before switching it off to let the Turbo settle down. Is this > true? If so.. how long is "a few seconds" ?

Basically, it’s to prevent oil in the turbo overheating and gumming everything up. The 225 has a built-in coolant recirculator to help with this sort of thing. Personally, I allow about 30 seconds – more if the temperature needle rises above median. (Presumably when one has met Swash; having never once come across a Volvo being driven in a "spirited" manner [excepting breaking motorway speed limits in straight lines. Yawn] I can only speculate ;o) — Hairy One Kenobi Disclaimer: the opinions expressed in this opinion do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the highly-opinionated person expressing the opinion in the first place. So there!

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> > > Personally, I allow about 30 seconds – more if the temperature needle > > rises > > > above median. (Presumably when one has met Swash; having never once > come > > > across a Volvo being driven in a "spirited" manner [excepting breaking > > > motorway speed limits in straight lines. Yawn] I can only speculate > ;o) > > If you ever meet me, you’ll know. Silver S60 (going very quick up market > > weighton hill about 20 mins ago…) > Can’t comment, except that (from the map) it looks like a straight > A-road.. > indeed it is… > Other favourites of mine (not familiar with your example, and can’t work it > out on Autoroute – any chance of emailine me an axe file?)

Don’t have AR anymore (use the Garmin package that works with the GPS) If you take a look at Streetmap on the larger scale (http://tinyurl.com/l5u5) it’s the B3051 (TBH, I didn’t know the name of the village until I looked it up – it’s "past the war memorial, then on past the Pineapple [pub]" ;o) > Beverley – Thirsk, B1248 (very fast and open B road with a couple of odd > dips and weaves) to malton, then B1257 to A170, down sutton bank, into > thirsk. Total from home (hull) 65 miles, record (XR4×4) 55 minutes (S60 1hr > 10 mins but stuck in traffic in malton). > Unclassified road from Wawne to Routh – recently resurfaced and hedges > trimmed making it a very fast road (done it in the TT a few times) and only > two miles from home – 5 miles and only one short straight. Someone recently > has put home-made signs up showing where people have left the road with > captions like "SPEED" and "DRUNK" on them… Love it.

) I’ll make a note of those – thanks! Another one that I missed is near High Wycombe, and well worth a quick detour if you’re on the M40 down here (http://tinyurl.com/l5un) It’s the dotted roads (which I guess is OS-speak for "can’t be bothered to mark all of the curves" ;o) Check-out the contours..! > Back road from Clevedon to Bristol Airport – just amazing for suspension > testing….

Oh, yes. Some lovely roads around that area (discovered a few while commuting from Slough to Bristol with the M4 impassable). Some very dodgy road surfaces, though.. had to get someone back on a flight to Ireland with not enough time. We made it, but the BMW slogan was sounding a little hollow at the end of it ;o) Nasty bit (if I’m thinking about the same road) was the apparently random scattering of 30s along the route. H1K

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> Unclassified road from Wawne to Routh – recently resurfaced and hedges > trimmed making it a very fast road (done it in the TT a few times) and only > two miles from home – 5 miles and only one short straight. Someone recently > has put home-made signs up showing where people have left the road with > captions like "SPEED" and "DRUNK" on them… Love it. > Back road from Clevedon to Bristol Airport – just amazing for suspension > testing….

And then theres always the Scarborough to Whitby road when its quiet… late at night, or early morning, thats a challenging road…. — Dan

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<…> > There is no problem using 95RON – it states this in the handbook.  I use it > all the time.  Some people say they can notice a difference when they use > 98RON (and also Shell Optimax here in the UK).  Maybe you should try it and > see for yourself.

There are some noticeable differences in running 95RON, of which the reduced performance under full load is the most important, and also during idle and accelleration the engine may not run as smooth as with 98RON. The engine is developed for 98RON but is able to run the 95RON, using the Knock Sensors to adjust the ignition. This will lead to reduced performance. In normal driving (not a lot of full load) 95RON will be OK. But, some people report problems that they think 95RON caused. If you understand German, you should read or search the excellent forums www.motor-talk.de and www.ttoc.net (also newsgroups at news.ttoc.net) > Someone told me I had to keep the engine running for a few seconds > before switching it off to let the Turbo settle down. Is this > true? If so.. how long is "a few seconds" ? > I’ve heard that if you’ve been doing a bit of "spirited" driving, then it’s > worth leaving the engine running to allow things to cool down, rather than > switching off straight away.  Not sure how long though.  I would have > thought a minute or two.  If you’ve been driving "normally", then I don’t > think there’s any problem switching off straight away.

You shouldn’t switch off the engine *immediately* after a powerfull drive, e.g. stopping at the gas station after a powerfull highway drive. Cooling it down for a minute should do. Besides that, de engine has an additional electric waterpump that runs when you switch off the engine, just to cool the turbo. The reason forr all this cooling: a running engine pumps round the oil, so this actually cools the turbo. If the engine is whitched off, the oil is no longer pumped round, and in a very hot turbo the lube oil could burn and cok e. This could damage the bearings and turbo shaft. Mo

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> Personally, I allow about 30 seconds – more if the temperature needle rises > above median. (Presumably when one has met Swash; having never once come > across a Volvo being driven in a "spirited" manner [excepting breaking > motorway speed limits in straight lines. Yawn] I can only speculate ;o)

If you ever meet me, you’ll know. Silver S60 (going very quick up market weighton hill about 20 mins ago…)

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> > Personally, I allow about 30 seconds – more if the temperature needle > rises > above median. (Presumably when one has met Swash; having never once come > across a Volvo being driven in a "spirited" manner [excepting breaking > motorway speed limits in straight lines. Yawn] I can only speculate ;o) > If you ever meet me, you’ll know. Silver S60 (going very quick up market > weighton hill about 20 mins ago…)

Can’t comment, except that (from the map) it looks like a straight A-road.. If you’re ever down this neck of the woods, then I’d recommend Brimpton Common to Watership Down via Kingsclere (there’s also a good couple of straights if you’re heading from Aldermaston) All National, apart from slowing down for the villages (mostly 40s, some 30s). Not much opportunity for overtaking (best let cars in front have a few minutes’ lead), apart from a nice bend complex that – situation permitting – can be "flattened", and a short complex with tight 90s each end. Heading down the hill and left towards Overton, it gets a little more fun – a straightish road with major up-and-down bumps, which really tests the brakes ("anyone in the blind spot?") and acceleration ("nope!") – and is followed by a very tight set of interlinked bends. Real red mist slidey stuff ;o) H1K

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Hey all, I just became the proud owner of a sea-silver metallic Audi TT. After being a devout Alfa Romeo driver all my life I just couldn’t resist the temptations of this sexy German beauty. One testdrive was all she needed to finally convince me Anyway.. I have two questions. I know using 98RON gas (the European kind) is recommended for optimum performance. But will using 95RON gas (in case I can’t always get 98) damage the engine in any way.. or will it just give me less performance? Someone told me I had to keep the engine running for a few seconds before switching it off to let the Turbo settle down. Is this true? If so.. how long is "a few seconds" ? Cheers!

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> Hey all, > I just became the proud owner of a sea-silver metallic Audi TT. > After being a devout Alfa Romeo driver all my life I just couldn’t > resist the temptations of this sexy German beauty. One testdrive > was all she needed to finally convince me

Many congratulations – enjoy!  Not heard of sea silver before – is this a US description. > Anyway.. I have two questions. > I know using 98RON gas (the European kind) is recommended for > optimum performance. But will using 95RON gas (in case I can’t > always get 98) damage the engine in any way.. or will it just > give me less performance?

There is no problem using 95RON – it states this in the handbook.  I use it all the time.  Some people say they can notice a difference when they use 98RON (and also Shell Optimax here in the UK).  Maybe you should try it and see for yourself. > Someone told me I had to keep the engine running for a few seconds > before switching it off to let the Turbo settle down. Is this > true? If so.. how long is "a few seconds" ?

I’ve heard that if you’ve been doing a bit of "spirited" driving, then it’s worth leaving the engine running to allow things to cool down, rather than switching off straight away.  Not sure how long though.  I would have thought a minute or two.  If you’ve been driving "normally", then I don’t think there’s any problem switching off straight away. — Moley TTOC Member www.ttoc.co.uk www.tt-forum.co.uk

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from what I see of TT drivers here in the UK they are "spirited" driving all the time…… as I have stated before they have taken over from the Volvo drivers…. swash

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hey all, > I just became the proud owner of a sea-silver metallic Audi TT. > After being a devout Alfa Romeo driver all my life I just couldn’t > resist the temptations of this sexy German beauty. One testdrive > was all she needed to finally convince me > Many congratulations – enjoy!  Not heard of sea silver before – is this a US > description. > Anyway.. I have two questions. > I know using 98RON gas (the European kind) is recommended for > optimum performance. But will using 95RON gas (in case I can’t > always get 98) damage the engine in any way.. or will it just > give me less performance? > There is no problem using 95RON – it states this in the handbook.  I use it > all the time.  Some people say they can notice a difference when they use > 98RON (and also Shell Optimax here in the UK).  Maybe you should try it and > see for yourself. > Someone told me I had to keep the engine running for a few seconds > before switching it off to let the Turbo settle down. Is this > true? If so.. how long is "a few seconds" ? > I’ve heard that if you’ve been doing a bit of "spirited" driving, then it’s > worth leaving the engine running to allow things to cool down, rather than > switching off straight away.  Not sure how long though.  I would have > thought a minute or two.  If you’ve been driving "normally", then I don’t > think there’s any problem switching off straight away. > — > Moley > TTOC Member > www.ttoc.co.uk > www.tt-forum.co.uk

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>>On another note,  I’m curious on the differences (if any) between >Quattro and 4Motion.   Just a name? > quattro all-wheel drive systems are designed by Audi, currently using a torsen > center differential.  The 4-Motion system is designed by Haldex of Sweden and > uses a computer controlled clutch pack in place of a center differential. > FYI, although the Audi TT says "quattro" it is in fact a Haldex system because > the TT is based on the Golf platform…

…and likewise, the 4Motion on the Passat (up to the 2004 model) uses the TorSen center diff like the A4.  So, these names are mostly marketing  language.  Both TorSen and Haldex are subcontracted, neither one is particular to VW nor its Audi brand. -D. "

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> On another note,  I’m curious on the differences (if any) between > Quattro and 4Motion.   Just a name?

yes, they’re the same, but to make it even more confusing, quattro <> quattro and 4Motion <> 4Motion A3-TT-Golf 4Motion/Quattro = Haldex diff A4-A6-A8-Passat 4Motion/Quattro = Torsen diff (= classic audi 4wd as seen in Audi 80/90/100 quattro) if you search the internet, you’ll find a lot has been written about this already… greetz, Dave

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I’m on my second A4 2.8 4-door Quattro, and I’ve loved them both. My second car is a 2001 Saab 9-5 Aero Wagon. It’s a bi-polar, Jekyll and Hyde kind of car: an absolute beast on straight, dry roads, but a hairy, slippery one on anything else (I live in the Eastern US, where winters can pose a challenge). The FWD and high-hp create scary torque steer, and the car has a pretty a sloppy suspension (esp. compared with my A4) for a car in this price range. When the lease runs out on the Saab, I’m going to need a new wagon. I’d probably go for an A6 Avant, but I don’t want an automatic or Tiptronic… gotta have a stick. Gotta have AWD. Need the extra room in back, so the A4 Avant’s too small… What does the group have to say about the latest Allroads? Are they worth the extra bucks? How do they stack up vs. the Passat W8, the new Volvo V70 (anyone seen or driven the new "R" yet?), et al.? I suppose I’m looking for a reason to go with another Audi: any dissenters here?

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I really can’t comment on the Allroad  or the V70. I love my A6 2.7T and recommend it highly so that is about as close as I can come to recommending the Allroad. I really don’t like the Volvo brand or styling and feel they not as good a value as Audis so that makes me prefer the A6 Avant or Allroad. I did test drive the Passat W8 a few weeks ago. Personally, I really did not like the engine. The torque curve is about as bad as a mid-eighties turbocharged four cylinder engine. No torque at all down low. This made it very weak off the line and forced downshifts for passing at highway speeds. The Passat wagon is also smaller in interior volume than the current A4 Avant. I believe the Passat W8 Wagon is less expensive than the A6 Avant and Allroad so that would be the selling point that would make me consider the Passat W8 which is very well appointed for its price. Enjoy!

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I’m on my second A4 2.8 4-door Quattro, and I’ve loved them both. > My second car is a 2001 Saab 9-5 Aero Wagon. It’s a bi-polar, Jekyll and > Hyde kind of car: an absolute beast on straight, dry roads, but a hairy, > slippery one on anything else (I live in the Eastern US, where winters can > pose a challenge). The FWD and high-hp create scary torque steer, and the > car has a pretty a sloppy suspension (esp. compared with my A4) for a car in > this price range. > When the lease runs out on the Saab, I’m going to need a new wagon. I’d > probably go for an A6 Avant, but I don’t want an automatic or Tiptronic… > gotta have a stick. Gotta have AWD. Need the extra room in back, so the A4 > Avant’s too small… What does the group have to say about the latest > Allroads? Are they worth the extra bucks? How do they stack up vs. the > Passat W8, the new Volvo V70 (anyone seen or driven the new "R" yet?), et > al.? > I suppose I’m looking for a reason to go with another Audi: any dissenters > here?

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check WWW.audiworld.com  plenty of info in the allroad discussion group.  i have a 2002 tip.  it’s a great vehicle.  fast, sporty, comfortable (I’m 6′6") dealers will dicount.  don’t buy any Audi and keep it past the warranty.

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> I did test drive the Passat W8 a few weeks ago. Personally, I really did not > like the engine. The torque curve is about as bad as a mid-eighties > turbocharged four cylinder engine. No torque at all down low. This made it > very weak off the line and forced downshifts for passing at highway speeds. > The Passat wagon is also smaller in interior volume than the current A4 > Avant. I believe the Passat W8 Wagon is less expensive than the A6 Avant and > Allroad so that would be the selling point that would make me consider the > Passat W8 which is very well appointed for its price.

Interesting note on the W8,  from what I’ve read in the car rags, you’re not the first person to feel that way about the W8 or it’s tranny. On another note,  I’m curious on the differences (if any) between Quattro and 4Motion.   Just a name? Vic 2000 Mustang GT suspension upgrades 1997 A4 2.8q http://home.earthlink.net/~jthet

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> Could you explain the difference between "proper Quattro" and Haldex system? > I did not know there was a difference….

http://autozine.kyul.net/technical_school/traction/tech_traction_4wd_… Torsen, or "proper quattro" as Ron called it (lol!) is explained on the first page.  Continue on to the second page to read about Haldex. Cheers, Pete

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> See?  Even I don’t know what I’m talking about!!  ;-)

I rest my case ! — Ronny

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Well it is proper quattro, always has been always will be, somthing that is 2wd untill it needs to be 4wd is not full time AWD never will be either. Like it or not the 4motion is not quattro however much you want to try and convince yourselves it is. And maybe my head is up my arse, but I’m looking for you — Ronny www.fsplanes.net

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Could you explain the difference between "proper Quattro" and Haldex > system? > I did not know there was a difference…. > http://autozine.kyul.net/technical_school/traction/tech_traction_4wd_… > Torsen, or "proper quattro" as Ron called it (lol!) is explained on the > first page.  Continue on to the second page to read about Haldex. > Cheers, > Pete

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BTW why do some of you seem to have such a hang-up? If you read my first post properly I was merely suggesting that it MAY be that the TT’s 4wd system performs differently to the Audi quattro system, and to ask VW drivers there experiences! IF you have such a hang-up with your own car’s then change them. — Ronny

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Well it is proper quattro, always has been always will be, somthing that is > 2wd untill it needs to be 4wd is not full time AWD never will be either. > Like it or not the 4motion is not quattro however much you want to try and > convince yourselves it is. > And maybe my head is up my arse, but I’m looking for you > — > Ronny > www.fsplanes.net > > Could you explain the difference between "proper Quattro" and Haldex > system? > > I did not know there was a difference….

http://autozine.kyul.net/technical_school/traction/tech_traction_4wd_… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Torsen, or "proper quattro" as Ron called it (lol!) is explained on the > first page.  Continue on to the second page to read about Haldex. > Cheers, > Pete

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> Like it or not the 4motion is not quattro however much you want to try and > convince yourselves it is.

So, what is the significant difference between a Passat 4motion and an A6 quattro? —

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Ron, I don’t kow about you, but I’m over here lauging.  I don’t think that I’m taking anything posted here to seriously.  =) I’m just gonna copy and paste some info regarding the Haldex differential from the links that Pete and I have been posting, JIC no one went there: Computer determines how much torque to be sent to the rear wheels. Normally it is 50:50, but in tight corners when wheels on one of the axles is slipping, the driver can easily feel the torque is transffering from one to another axle. Volkswagen claimed 100% torque could be sent to either axle. So there we have it.  BTW, I’m sure that the TT has the "quattro" badge on it, so if Audi thinks it is good enough for them, then I don’t mind.  They are the experts. This is my last post in this thread.  Everyone have a nice weekend. Elroy 2000 S4 – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->BTW why do some of you seem to have such a hang-up? If you read my first >post properly I was merely suggesting that it MAY be that the TT’s 4wd >system performs differently to the Audi quattro system, and to ask VW >drivers there experiences! >IF you have such a hang-up with your own car’s then change them.

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> Well it is proper quattro, always has been always will be, somthing that is > 2wd untill it needs to be 4wd is not full time AWD never will be either. > Like it or not the 4motion is not quattro however much you want to try and > convince yourselves it is. > And maybe my head is up my arse, but I’m looking for you > — > Ronny

Ron, If it says "quattro" on the back, it’s a quattro.  If it says "4Motion" on the back, it’s a 4Motion.  Both systems are used with both names. Whether you want to be a nose-in-the-air (or head-up-the-ass) purist matters not in the least to VAG or the owners of the systems in question. HTH, Spider

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> Like it or not the 4motion is not quattro however much you want to try and > convince yourselves it is.

The 4motion system on a Passat is EXACTLY the same as torsen quattro on your A4/A6.  Now Golf R32 would be another story (haldex). Cheers, Pete

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> ITS THE TIRES NOT THE DIFFERENTIAL! > Enough already. The Haldex is a fine system and arguments can be made as to its > superiority to torsen.

Mike, you didn’t quote me, but your response is threaded below mine, so… All I was doing was pointing out that the Passat 4Motion is a TORSEN system, while the Golf 4Motion is a Haldex system, and the TT is a Haldex system, despite it’s quattro name. I didn’t say those last bits, but the first bit was just a clarification, since the naming system that VAG uses is quite stupid. We won’t drag the "syncro" name in, either.  :) Spider

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> I talked to someone yesterday who has a Passat with 4-motion.  She > loves it in the snow…

The Passat (in it’s current, post-MY1997 form, is TORSEN.  Just like your S4 (except without the power, handling and good looks.)  :) Spider

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ITS THE TIRES NOT THE DIFFERENTIAL! Enough already. The Haldex is a fine system and arguments can be made as to its superiority to torsen. Mike 00ttq180

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Could you explain the difference between "proper Quattro" and Haldex system? I did not know there was a difference….

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Might be worth considering but all the resposnses here are for proper > quattro ie S4 and a6 etc, the TT doesnt use "proper Quattro" So unless we > have driven a haldex system in the snow its a bit of a no go subject. > On Audiworld.com forums they all love the 4wd experience with "quattro" on > the A4’s but TT is a different ball game. > Ask someone with a A3 quattro or a Golf 4 motion, see how they find it in > the snow. > — > Ronny > www.fsplanes.net > Jason, > Congrats on the new car!  The TT is a neat little machine. > One more thing – make sure that you get a winter tire for the full > sized spare.  I just put a new set of Winter Sport M2s on, and one got > punctured on Sunday.  I had to put on the spare wheel, which had the > Potenza mounted.  Thankfully I was able to get the M2 patched and > re-installed.  That Potenza made the rear end kind of funny in snow. > If they fit on the TT, you can get 16×6 steel wheels for winter use > from theTire Rack.  The are much cheaper than aluminum wheels, and you > are using them in winter anyway.  You also won’t get the "snow in my > wheel" shimmy that more open designed wheels get. > Elroy > 2000 S4 > >Thanks to all for the responses.  It seems like the general concensus is > to > >get winter tires.  I guess I’ll just keep the tires I’ve got for summer > >driving and switch to the winter tires for the cold weather season. > >Thanks again! > >Jason > >> Hi Jason, > >> I own a 96 S6 which has the Quattro system. With all season tires the > >> response of the car was horrible in snow. So I suspect that what you > have > >> experienced with performance summer tires is normal. > >> I fully recommend that you replace your summer tires with snow tires. I > >have > >> Michelin Pilot Alpin, these are their performance snow tire. Also go > with > >a > >> slightly smaller size say a 205 R16 and you will see a great > improvement > >> with handling though you’ll have to get steel rims which do not do the > >> esthetics any good. > >> Good luck, > >> Tony > >> Ottawa > >> > Hello all.  I wanted to share an experience I recently had and see if > >any > >> of > >> > you had any advice or similar experience. > >> > I recently purchased a pre-owned 2001 Audi TT Quattro Roadster.  I > >wanted > >> > the Quattro model for its 4-wheel drive capability and presumably > better > >> > performance in adverse conditions.  When it snowed the other day for > the > >> > first time since I purchased the car I was horribly disappointed. It > is > >> the > >> > most abhorrent little contraption I have ever had the misfortune of > >> driving > >> > in the snow.  The car is wildly unstable, even just in straight and > >> constant > >> > forward motion.  It was all over the place, and forget about braking! > >> > I started doing a little research today.  My car has Bridgestone > Potenza > >> > RE040 225 45 R17 tires on it.  Is this the factory tire?  Anyhow, > >> according > >> > to tirerack.com, this is a Ultra high performance ZR rated tire. > >> Obviously > >> > it is meant more for the track than winter driving.  The review of > this > >> > particular tire showed all good marks except for snow condition, for > >which > >> > it showed "unacceptable."  Unacceptable is putting it mildly. > >> > That being said, my questions are these: > >> > Has anyone else observed the poor winter performance of this tire, or > is > >> it > >> > just me? > >> > Has anyone switched to a winter tire or a touring tire that has good > >> winter > >> > performance? > >> > If you have switched to a winter or touring tire, did it make a > notable > >> > improvement in winter driving, or is there still something else > >inherently > >> > unstable about the TT design that causes it to drive so poorly? > >> > Any recommendations? > >> > Jason > >> > 2001 TT Roadster Quattro Silver

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Ron, Do your sunglasses hurt when you pull your head out of your ass? This discussion had nothing to do with which center differential was on the TT.  It was about tires.  In your attempt to look smart, you look dumb. BTW…I’m not so sure that Torsen is better than Haldex, or visa versa… http://autozine.kyul.net/technical_school/traction/tech_traction_4wd_… http://www.forgemotorsport.co.uk/haldex.pdf I talked to someone yesterday who has a Passat with 4-motion.  She loves it in the snow… Elroy 2000 S4 – with a Torsen center diff….oooooooooooooooooh – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Might be worth considering but all the resposnses here are for proper >quattro ie S4 and a6 etc, the TT doesnt use "proper Quattro" So unless we >have driven a haldex system in the snow its a bit of a no go subject. >On Audiworld.com forums they all love the 4wd experience with "quattro" on >the A4’s but TT is a different ball game. >Ask someone with a A3 quattro or a Golf 4 motion, see how they find it in >the snow.

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> I talked to someone yesterday who has a Passat with 4-motion.  She > loves it in the snow… > Elroy > 2000 S4 – with a Torsen center diff….oooooooooooooooooh

FYI… Passat’s 4-motion has a torsen diff. Pete

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See?  Even I don’t know what I’m talking about!!  ;-) Elroy – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I talked to someone yesterday who has a Passat with 4-motion.  She > loves it in the snow… > Elroy > 2000 S4 – with a Torsen center diff….oooooooooooooooooh >FYI… Passat’s 4-motion has a torsen diff. >Pete

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> Might be worth considering but all the resposnses here are for proper > quattro ie S4 and a6 etc, the TT doesnt use "proper Quattro" So unless we > have driven a haldex system in the snow its a bit of a no go subject. > On Audiworld.com forums they all love the 4wd experience with "quattro" on > the A4’s but TT is a different ball game. > Ask someone with a A3 quattro or a Golf 4 motion, see how they find it in > the snow.

Doesn’t really change the fact that having proper tires, adequate to the road conditions, is more important than whether the car is a FWD, RWD, torsen, or haldex. Pete

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I have a 2002 TT Roadster (225 hp version).  The difference between stock and winter tires in the snow is like night and day.  I have Dunlop WinterSport M2 "high performance" winter tires that I purchase from Tire Rack and my TT is like a little tank in the snow.  The only problem I have had is with ground clearance if the snow is over 8" deep.   A colleague of mine has the same car (different color luckily) and tried to drive with the stock tires in the first minor (less than 1") snowfall we got here in the Blue Ridge mountains. He said "the damn car just would not stop" and immediately ordered a set of mounted Bridgestone LM22s (similar in design and price to my Dunlops). He has had no problems at all since putting on the winter tires. I don’t think that the Haldex quattro vs regular quattro is a big issue here.  Also, I regularly read (and occasionally post on) the TT Forum at AudiWorld and have not seen a lot of anti-Haldex posts.  The "word" on winter driving characteristics of the TT is overwhelmingly postiive on that forum (given the use of winter tires). I agree with Pete’s statement below that tires are more important than drive configuration for typcial winter driving.  I previously had a Ford Escort GT that felt like it was on skis with "all season" (yeah, right) tires.  I put fully studded snow tires all around and it went from one of the worst performing cars I had driven in snow to one of the best. -Dean – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Might be worth considering but all the resposnses here are for proper > quattro ie S4 and a6 etc, the TT doesnt use "proper Quattro" So unless > we > have driven a haldex system in the snow its a bit of a no go subject. > On Audiworld.com forums they all love the 4wd experience with "quattro" > on > the A4’s but TT is a different ball game. > Ask someone with a A3 quattro or a Golf 4 motion, see how they find it > in > the snow. > Doesn’t really change the fact that having proper tires, adequate to the > road conditions, is more important than whether the car is a FWD, RWD, > torsen, or haldex. > Pete

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Might be worth considering but all the resposnses here are for proper quattro ie S4 and a6 etc, the TT doesnt use "proper Quattro" So unless we have driven a haldex system in the snow its a bit of a no go subject. On Audiworld.com forums they all love the 4wd experience with "quattro" on the A4’s but TT is a different ball game. Ask someone with a A3 quattro or a Golf 4 motion, see how they find it in the snow. — Ronny www.fsplanes.net – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Jason, > Congrats on the new car!  The TT is a neat little machine. > One more thing – make sure that you get a winter tire for the full > sized spare.  I just put a new set of Winter Sport M2s on, and one got > punctured on Sunday.  I had to put on the spare wheel, which had the > Potenza mounted.  Thankfully I was able to get the M2 patched and > re-installed.  That Potenza made the rear end kind of funny in snow. > If they fit on the TT, you can get 16×6 steel wheels for winter use > from theTire Rack.  The are much cheaper than aluminum wheels, and you > are using them in winter anyway.  You also won’t get the "snow in my > wheel" shimmy that more open designed wheels get. > Elroy > 2000 S4 >Thanks to all for the responses.  It seems like the general concensus is to >get winter tires.  I guess I’ll just keep the tires I’ve got for summer >driving and switch to the winter tires for the cold weather season. >Thanks again! >Jason >> Hi Jason, >> I own a 96 S6 which has the Quattro system. With all season tires the >> response of the car was horrible in snow. So I suspect that what you have >> experienced with performance summer tires is normal. >> I fully recommend that you replace your summer tires with snow tires. I >have >> Michelin Pilot Alpin, these are their performance snow tire. Also go with >a >> slightly smaller size say a 205 R16 and you will see a great improvement >> with handling though you’ll have to get steel rims which do not do the >> esthetics any good. >> Good luck, >> Tony >> Ottawa >> > Hello all.  I wanted to share an experience I recently had and see if >any >> of >> > you had any advice or similar experience. >> > I recently purchased a pre-owned 2001 Audi TT Quattro Roadster.  I >wanted >> > the Quattro model for its 4-wheel drive capability and presumably better >> > performance in adverse conditions.  When it snowed the other day for the >> > first time since I purchased the car I was horribly disappointed.  It is >> the >> > most abhorrent little contraption I have ever had the misfortune of >> driving >> > in the snow.  The car is wildly unstable, even just in straight and >> constant >> > forward motion.  It was all over the place, and forget about braking! >> > I started doing a little research today.  My car has Bridgestone Potenza >> > RE040 225 45 R17 tires on it.  Is this the factory tire?  Anyhow, >> according >> > to tirerack.com, this is a Ultra high performance ZR rated tire. >> Obviously >> > it is meant more for the track than winter driving.  The review of this >> > particular tire showed all good marks except for snow condition, for >which >> > it showed "unacceptable."  Unacceptable is putting it mildly. >> > That being said, my questions are these: >> > Has anyone else observed the poor winter performance of this tire, or is >> it >> > just me? >> > Has anyone switched to a winter tire or a touring tire that has good >> winter >> > performance? >> > If you have switched to a winter or touring tire, did it make a notable >> > improvement in winter driving, or is there still something else >inherently >> > unstable about the TT design that causes it to drive so poorly? >> > Any recommendations? >> > Jason >> > 2001 TT Roadster Quattro Silver

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All I can say is RTFM! Seriously, if you had carefully read your owner’s manual, you would know that your car came with high performance summer tires which are not suitable for use in snow or in cold weather. Quattro is no help in snow if you don’t have the right tires. Please take other responders’ advice and either: a. get a dedicated winter set of wheels and tires or b. change the OEM tires with all-season ones. (a) would be the preferred solution, giving you the best of both worlds (summer and winter).  Specific winter tire recommendations may vary depending on what your priorities are; whether you want a heavy duty snow tire or just an OK snow tire but with good dry winter weather traction and handling as well.  In the first case, I’d recommend something like Bridgestone WS50 or Nokian Hakka Q, also in a narrower size, like 205/55/16. In the second case, you could try something like Nokian WR, Dunlop M2/M3, Bridgestone LM-22, or Michelin Pilot Alpin, either in 205-width or 225-width. Best of luck, Pete

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hello all.  I wanted to share an experience I recently had and see if any of > you had any advice or similar experience. > I recently purchased a pre-owned 2001 Audi TT Quattro Roadster.  I wanted > the Quattro model for its 4-wheel drive capability and presumably better > performance in adverse conditions.  When it snowed the other day for the > first time since I purchased the car I was horribly disappointed.  It is the > most abhorrent little contraption I have ever had the misfortune of driving > in the snow.  The car is wildly unstable, even just in straight and constant > forward motion.  It was all over the place, and forget about braking! > I started doing a little research today.  My car has Bridgestone Potenza > RE040 225 45 R17 tires on it.  Is this the factory tire?  Anyhow, according > to tirerack.com, this is a Ultra high performance ZR rated tire. Obviously > it is meant more for the track than winter driving.  The review of this > particular tire showed all good marks except for snow condition, for which > it showed "unacceptable."  Unacceptable is putting it mildly. > That being said, my questions are these: > Has anyone else observed the poor winter performance of this tire, or is it > just me? > Has anyone switched to a winter tire or a touring tire that has good winter > performance? > If you have switched to a winter or touring tire, did it make a notable > improvement in winter driving, or is there still something else inherently > unstable about the TT design that causes it to drive so poorly? > Any recommendations? > Jason > 2001 TT Roadster Quattro Silver

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Thanks to all for the responses.  It seems like the general concensus is to get winter tires.  I guess I’ll just keep the tires I’ve got for summer driving and switch to the winter tires for the cold weather season. Thanks again! Jason

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi Jason, > I own a 96 S6 which has the Quattro system. With all season tires the > response of the car was horrible in snow. So I suspect that what you have > experienced with performance summer tires is normal. > I fully recommend that you replace your summer tires with snow tires. I have > Michelin Pilot Alpin, these are their performance snow tire. Also go with a > slightly smaller size say a 205 R16 and you will see a great improvement > with handling though you’ll have to get steel rims which do not do the > esthetics any good. > Good luck, > Tony > Ottawa > Hello all.  I wanted to share an experience I recently had and see if any > of > you had any advice or similar experience. > I recently purchased a pre-owned 2001 Audi TT Quattro Roadster.  I wanted > the Quattro model for its 4-wheel drive capability and presumably better > performance in adverse conditions.  When it snowed the other day for the > first time since I purchased the car I was horribly disappointed.  It is > the > most abhorrent little contraption I have ever had the misfortune of > driving > in the snow.  The car is wildly unstable, even just in straight and > constant > forward motion.  It was all over the place, and forget about braking! > I started doing a little research today.  My car has Bridgestone Potenza > RE040 225 45 R17 tires on it.  Is this the factory tire?  Anyhow, > according > to tirerack.com, this is a Ultra high performance ZR rated tire. > Obviously > it is meant more for the track than winter driving.  The review of this > particular tire showed all good marks except for snow condition, for which > it showed "unacceptable."  Unacceptable is putting it mildly. > That being said, my questions are these: > Has anyone else observed the poor winter performance of this tire, or is > it > just me? > Has anyone switched to a winter tire or a touring tire that has good > winter > performance? > If you have switched to a winter or touring tire, did it make a notable > improvement in winter driving, or is there still something else inherently > unstable about the TT design that causes it to drive so poorly? > Any recommendations? > Jason > 2001 TT Roadster Quattro Silver

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Jason, Congrats on the new car!  The TT is a neat little machine. One more thing – make sure that you get a winter tire for the full sized spare.  I just put a new set of Winter Sport M2s on, and one got punctured on Sunday.  I had to put on the spare wheel, which had the Potenza mounted.  Thankfully I was able to get the M2 patched and re-installed.  That Potenza made the rear end kind of funny in snow. If they fit on the TT, you can get 16×6 steel wheels for winter use from theTire Rack.  The are much cheaper than aluminum wheels, and you are using them in winter anyway.  You also won’t get the "snow in my wheel" shimmy that more open designed wheels get. Elroy 2000 S4 – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >Thanks to all for the responses.  It seems like the general concensus is to >get winter tires.  I guess I’ll just keep the tires I’ve got for summer >driving and switch to the winter tires for the cold weather season. >Thanks again! >Jason > Hi Jason, > I own a 96 S6 which has the Quattro system. With all season tires the > response of the car was horrible in snow. So I suspect that what you have > experienced with performance summer tires is normal. > I fully recommend that you replace your summer tires with snow tires. I >have > Michelin Pilot Alpin, these are their performance snow tire. Also go with >a > slightly smaller size say a 205 R16 and you will see a great improvement > with handling though you’ll have to get steel rims which do not do the > esthetics any good. > Good luck, > Tony > Ottawa > > Hello all.  I wanted to share an experience I recently had and see if >any > of > > you had any advice or similar experience. > > I recently purchased a pre-owned 2001 Audi TT Quattro Roadster.  I >wanted > > the Quattro model for its 4-wheel drive capability and presumably better > > performance in adverse conditions.  When it snowed the other day for the > > first time since I purchased the car I was horribly disappointed.  It is > the > > most abhorrent little contraption I have ever had the misfortune of > driving > > in the snow.  The car is wildly unstable, even just in straight and > constant > > forward motion.  It was all over the place, and forget about braking! > > I started doing a little research today.  My car has Bridgestone Potenza > > RE040 225 45 R17 tires on it.  Is this the factory tire?  Anyhow, > according > > to tirerack.com, this is a Ultra high performance ZR rated tire. > Obviously > > it is meant more for the track than winter driving.  The review of this > > particular tire showed all good marks except for snow condition, for >which > > it showed "unacceptable."  Unacceptable is putting it mildly. > > That being said, my questions are these: > > Has anyone else observed the poor winter performance of this tire, or is > it > > just me? > > Has anyone switched to a winter tire or a touring tire that has good > winter > > performance? > > If you have switched to a winter or touring tire, did it make a notable > > improvement in winter driving, or is there still something else >inherently > > unstable about the TT design that causes it to drive so poorly? > > Any recommendations? > > Jason > > 2001 TT Roadster Quattro Silver

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Hi, Get winter tires ASAP.  It will be a whole different car with proper winter boots I agree with the other guy, Pilot Alpins a great.  Not too soft (like Blizzaks), good performance and do a great job in the snow. Micho – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >Hello all.  I wanted to share an experience I recently had and see if any of >you had any advice or similar experience. >I recently purchased a pre-owned 2001 Audi TT Quattro Roadster.  I wanted >the Quattro model for its 4-wheel drive capability and presumably better >performance in adverse conditions.  When it snowed the other day for the >first time since I purchased the car I was horribly disappointed.  It is the >most abhorrent little contraption I have ever had the misfortune of driving >in the snow.  The car is wildly unstable, even just in straight and constant >forward motion.  It was all over the place, and forget about braking! >I started doing a little research today.  My car has Bridgestone Potenza >RE040 225 45 R17 tires on it.  Is this the factory tire?  Anyhow, according >to tirerack.com, this is a Ultra high performance ZR rated tire.  Obviously >it is meant more for the track than winter driving.  The review of this >particular tire showed all good marks except for snow condition, for which >it showed "unacceptable."  Unacceptable is putting it mildly. >That being said, my questions are these: >Has anyone else observed the poor winter performance of this tire, or is it >just me? >Has anyone switched to a winter tire or a touring tire that has good winter >performance? >If you have switched to a winter or touring tire, did it make a notable >improvement in winter driving, or is there still something else inherently >unstable about the TT design that causes it to drive so poorly? >Any recommendations? >Jason >2001 TT Roadster Quattro Silver

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Hello all.  I wanted to share an experience I recently had and see if any of >you had any advice or similar experience. >I recently purchased a pre-owned 2001 Audi TT Quattro Roadster.  I wanted >the Quattro model for its 4-wheel drive capability and presumably better >performance in adverse conditions.  When it snowed the other day for the >first time since I purchased the car I was horribly disappointed.  It is the >most abhorrent little contraption I have ever had the misfortune of driving >in the snow.  The car is wildly unstable, even just in straight and constant >forward motion.  It was all over the place, and forget about braking! >I started doing a little research today.  My car has Bridgestone Potenza >RE040 225 45 R17 tires on it.  Is this the factory tire?  Anyhow, according >to tirerack.com, this is a Ultra high performance ZR rated tire.  Obviously >it is meant more for the track than winter driving.  The review of this >particular tire showed all good marks except for snow condition, for which >it showed "unacceptable."  Unacceptable is putting it mildly. >That being said, my questions are these: >Has anyone else observed the poor winter performance of this tire, or is it >just me? >Has anyone switched to a winter tire or a touring tire that has good winter >performance? >If you have switched to a winter or touring tire, did it make a notable >improvement in winter driving, or is there still something else inherently >unstable about the TT design that causes it to drive so poorly? >Any recommendations? >Jason >2001 TT Roadster Quattro Silver

My S4 came with RE040s. Very good for dry or wet conditions, but I would sooner shoot myself in the head than take those out in the snow or ice – ANY amount of snow or ice. And the S02’s I replaced those with – and the S03’s I replaced *those* with – are at least as hair-raising as the RE040s, when there’s snow or ice about. Invest in a decent set of aftermarket rims and some honest-to-goodness performance winter tires –  something like Michelin Artic Alpins or Bridgestone Blizzak W50’s. You will not regret it. Get hooked up with what you’re riding on and you’ll love having an AWD vehicle in the winter. And it’ll be cheaper than having the corners repaired each time you lose it in a snow-covered parking lot, never mind on a snow-covered roadway /daytripper ‘00 s4 6spd

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Hello all.  I wanted to share an experience I recently had and see if any of you had any advice or similar experience. I recently purchased a pre-owned 2001 Audi TT Quattro Roadster.  I wanted the Quattro model for its 4-wheel drive capability and presumably better performance in adverse conditions.  When it snowed the other day for the first time since I purchased the car I was horribly disappointed.  It is the most abhorrent little contraption I have ever had the misfortune of driving in the snow.  The car is wildly unstable, even just in straight and constant forward motion.  It was all over the place, and forget about braking! I started doing a little research today.  My car has Bridgestone Potenza RE040 225 45 R17 tires on it.  Is this the factory tire?  Anyhow, according to tirerack.com, this is a Ultra high performance ZR rated tire.  Obviously it is meant more for the track than winter driving.  The review of this particular tire showed all good marks except for snow condition, for which it showed "unacceptable."  Unacceptable is putting it mildly. That being said, my questions are these: Has anyone else observed the poor winter performance of this tire, or is it just me? Has anyone switched to a winter tire or a touring tire that has good winter performance? If you have switched to a winter or touring tire, did it make a notable improvement in winter driving, or is there still something else inherently unstable about the TT design that causes it to drive so poorly? Any recommendations? Jason 2001 TT Roadster Quattro Silver

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Hi Jason, I own a 96 S6 which has the Quattro system. With all season tires the response of the car was horrible in snow. So I suspect that what you have experienced with performance summer tires is normal. I fully recommend that you replace your summer tires with snow tires. I have Michelin Pilot Alpin, these are their performance snow tire. Also go with a slightly smaller size say a 205 R16 and you will see a great improvement with handling though you’ll have to get steel rims which do not do the esthetics any good. Good luck, Tony Ottawa

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hello all.  I wanted to share an experience I recently had and see if any of > you had any advice or similar experience. > I recently purchased a pre-owned 2001 Audi TT Quattro Roadster.  I wanted > the Quattro model for its 4-wheel drive capability and presumably better > performance in adverse conditions.  When it snowed the other day for the > first time since I purchased the car I was horribly disappointed.  It is the > most abhorrent little contraption I have ever had the misfortune of driving > in the snow.  The car is wildly unstable, even just in straight and constant > forward motion.  It was all over the place, and forget about braking! > I started doing a little research today.  My car has Bridgestone Potenza > RE040 225 45 R17 tires on it.  Is this the factory tire?  Anyhow, according > to tirerack.com, this is a Ultra high performance ZR rated tire. Obviously > it is meant more for the track than winter driving.  The review of this > particular tire showed all good marks except for snow condition, for which > it showed "unacceptable."  Unacceptable is putting it mildly. > That being said, my questions are these: > Has anyone else observed the poor winter performance of this tire, or is it > just me? > Has anyone switched to a winter tire or a touring tire that has good winter > performance? > If you have switched to a winter or touring tire, did it make a notable > improvement in winter driving, or is there still something else inherently > unstable about the TT design that causes it to drive so poorly? > Any recommendations? > Jason > 2001 TT Roadster Quattro Silver

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Sorry, my good man.  I’m on my way.  It’s at a dealer and was listed in a local auto mart mag.  Of course price and datails weren’t listed. Jm – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > My advice? Find out the engine and mileage and get back to us!!!!!! > Sheeeeeesh. > I’m going to look at a 2000 TT, 5spd, quattro tomorrow, not sure of mileage > or engine, yet.  Asking $23,900.  Any advice would be highly appreciated. > Jim

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I’m going to look at a 2000 TT, 5spd, quattro tomorrow, not sure of mileage or engine, yet.  Asking $23,900.  Any advice would be highly appreciated. Jim

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My advice? Find out the engine and mileage and get back to us!!!!!! Sheeeeeesh.

I’m going to look at a 2000 TT, 5spd, quattro tomorrow, not sure of mileage or engine, yet.  Asking $23,900.  Any advice would be highly appreciated. Jim

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It’d be nice to know what model year and how many miles are on it. Check with dealer to ensure that proper services have been done, and any programmes (recalls – though i don’t know of any here in the states unless you’ve got either a ‘99 or ‘00).  the shelf that the other user talked about IS a rattling issue for some (the one in my ‘01 has never had an issue (touch wood).  Some have had them replaced (my dealer’s service advisor warned me about this, and said he’d replace it the instant i heard it rattle — but i haven’t.   Bottom line, do your due diligence, but i dearly love my ‘01 225TTQC. You might also want to lurk around at http://forums.audiworld.com/tt to learn a bit more.  But a word to the wise:  those folks are heavy into modifying their cars, and they do tend to whine a bit (and i’m one of them).  so take all with a grain of salt.  they wouldn’t be there if they didn’t love their wheels in the first place. above all, BUY IT.  and do enjoy.  Cheers!  JOhn

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> OK thanks a lot for that anwser, cuz it IS a Coupe I’m looking at. Reg. the > luggage shelf….you say IF it is constructed from to pieces of > platic…what else could it be constructed from? > /CSA

I am hoping that it has be re-engineered to be made of one piece of plastic rather that two sandwiched together.

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Of course once you hit 50K, the brakes will run you $500 because the pads have these fancy "sensors" (really just a wire embedded that breaks a circuit when it wears through) and the rotors will be shot as well.  The cluch will set you back over $2000 and that problem you have shifting in first, second or reverse , well we can get a remanufactured tranny for 4000 or tear yours down and diagnose.  That’ll take 10 shop hours and run 1200 + parts.  Oh yeah, that slow coolant leak that they can’t find… that’s because the after cooling pump "may" have stopped working and your probably boiling off coolant instead of cooling the turbos like it’s supposed to.  I would include the cost for that jewel too, except it’s been two days and the service manager has yet to return my phone call.  Oh one last thing, the 60000 service , thats $850.  Oh, one last thing, the washer tank leak, that’s another 150. This is all on a car that was "mantained" but this dealership throughout the warranty period. My experience is not with a TT, but a 2000 S4.  I will have a very hard time recomending an Audi or Bluegrass motorsports service department to anyone.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Thus have I heard: > "Make sure you get the tires you will need. Mine came with performance > tires which I now need to replace with all season tires." > The TT is a performance vehicle and so comes with `performance’ tires. They > do wear out sooner than regular passenger tires. > "Keep in mind that when they tell you that oil changes are included in > the warranty, they only mean at every 10K miles. Big deal." > True, and the big deal is that the Audi 4yr/50k warranty covers a mite more > than oil changes. > Having sold Benz, Jaguar, and other luxury brands, I would say that the Audi > warranty far exceeds other brands because Audi actually covers some wear > items, such as brakes, wiper blades, etc– items one would have to pay for > directly in a Benz or Jaguar or BMW. > Besides, the 50k warranty includes far more than wiper blades and "oil > changes". (Take a gander at your 30k regularly scheduled maintenance list, > for example.) > Hope this helps > *+* > http://Bon.LovesLife.com > (dealer in southern California)

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Thus have I heard: "Make sure you get the tires you will need. Mine came with performance tires which I now need to replace with all season tires." The TT is a performance vehicle and so comes with `performance’ tires. They do wear out sooner than regular passenger tires. "Keep in mind that when they tell you that oil changes are included in the warranty, they only mean at every 10K miles. Big deal." True, and the big deal is that the Audi 4yr/50k warranty covers a mite more than oil changes. Having sold Benz, Jaguar, and other luxury brands, I would say that the Audi warranty far exceeds other brands because Audi actually covers some wear items, such as brakes, wiper blades, etc– items one would have to pay for directly in a Benz or Jaguar or BMW. Besides, the 50k warranty includes far more than wiper blades and "oil changes". (Take a gander at your 30k regularly scheduled maintenance list, for example.) Hope this helps *+* http://Bon.LovesLife.com (dealer in southern California)

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> Hello everyone. > Im bying an Audi TT 225Q this month, and I wondered it there was somethin in > particular I sould be aware of…any typical flaws ect.?

Make sure you get the tires you will need. Mine came with performance tires which I now need to replace with all season tires. If you are buying the coupe, check the construction of the luggage shelf. This is the thing that keeps the contents of the trunk hidden from view through the back window. If this thing is constructed from two pieces of plastic sandwiched together, it is going to rattle like crazy. I have not been able to fix mine yet and it drives me absolutely insane!! This shelf may have been re-engineered or the dealer may have a fix for it. Keep in mind that when they tell you that oil changes are included in the warranty, they only mean at every 10K miles. Big deal. Other than this, I love my 01 225Q.

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OK thanks a lot for that anwser, cuz it IS a Coupe I’m looking at. Reg. the luggage shelf….you say IF it is constructed from to pieces of platic…what else could it be constructed from? /CSA – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hello everyone. > Im bying an Audi TT 225Q this month, and I wondered it there was somethin in > particular I sould be aware of…any typical flaws ect.? > Make sure you get the tires you will need. Mine came with performance > tires which I now need to replace with all season tires. > If you are buying the coupe, check the construction of the luggage > shelf. This is the thing that keeps the contents of the trunk hidden > from view through the back window. If this thing is constructed from two > pieces of plastic sandwiched together, it is going to rattle like crazy. > I have not been able to fix mine yet and it drives me absolutely > insane!! This shelf may have been re-engineered or the dealer may have a > fix for it. > Keep in mind that when they tell you that oil changes are included in > the warranty, they only mean at every 10K miles. Big deal. > Other than this, I love my 01 225Q.

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Hello everyone. Im bying an Audi TT 225Q this month, and I wondered it there was somethin in particular I sould be aware of…any typical flaws ect.? Thanks /CSA – Denmark

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> I am about to purchase a 2001 Audi TT . > It comes with the Navigation System but the CD’s for the system are > lost. > Does anyone want to part with the Texas Region or know where I could > pick it up for a reasonable price?

I don’t know. > Can a burned copy be made of it?

Yes > Is it a standard CD or is it a DVD?

CD > I really hate to give the dealership another 400.00 for something that > was paid for already less than 2 years ago.

They’re $180 each. El Paso & Hudspeth on map #2, the rest of Texas on #4.

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I am about to purchase a 2001 Audi TT . It comes with the Navigation System but the CD’s for the system are lost. Does anyone want to part with the Texas Region or know where I could pick it up for a reasonable price? Can a burned copy be made of it? Is it a standard CD or is it a DVD? I really hate to give the dealership another 400.00 for something that was paid for already less than 2 years ago. thanks fellow enthusiasts, Bob Charlap 214-553-9100

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Can the optional navigation system be added onto an Audi TT after purchase or does it have to come factory equipped.  None of our local dealers have it with the navigation system and I don’t want to wait for an ordered car.

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No, and even if it could would you really want the dealer doing it? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >Can the optional navigation system be added onto an Audi TT after >purchase or does it have to come factory equipped.  None of our local >dealers have it with the navigation system and I don’t want to wait >for an ordered car.

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